How To Ruin A Set Of Tires In 1000 Miles Or Less.

Kinja'd!!! "McMike" (mcmike)
03/22/2019 at 11:00 • Filed to: Vanagon, tutu153

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A Tutorial.

Step #1: Search for tires to replace the N okian H akkapeliittas you bought 20 years ago. (not shown)

Step #2: Find that the only 14" snow tire with a 99 load rating is a 225/70R14 (not shown)

Step#3: Concerned it’s too wide, but nobody can confrirm, you buy one tire, mount it, and run it on the front and rear for a day each, listening for rubbing/clearance issues. (not shown)

Step #4: Satisfied with your test, buy three more and mount them.

Step #5 : Run the tires for two and a half winters. (not shown)

Step #6 : Swap out snows for summers in the spring (shown)

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Step #7 : Wonder why the hell the end of my upper control arm is cleaner than the rest of the arm. (shown)

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Step #8 : Start looking at the inner sidewalls of the tires. (shown )

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Step #9 : Oh lord. I have rotated these. There are all ruined. (shown)

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Step #10 : because I can’t help it.

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$500 worth of tires down the drain.

I can’t believe I didn’t notice a thing, especially since I’m sitting on the wheel well.

I have run snow tires since the mid 90s when I absolutely had to get to work. Even thought I have not had a job like that since 2005, I still had the set so I kept using them every winter. It doesn’t snow much around DC, but when it does, I loved the extra grip.

Feb of 2016 I got a flat and had to retire the Nokians, figured I would replace them and use them for years. Do I want to?

Sure spacers would work, but the tires are garbage and can’t be put back on the car . I would need to get another set of tires PLUS the spacers. I suppose I could source four used 15" or 16" wheels to make some more tires available, mill out the center hole once I found the right offset.... but.. see what I mean. Not sure it’s worth the effort for the weather we get.

(sigh)


DISCUSSION (21)


Kinja'd!!! random001 > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:07

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Far as I’m concerned, this is how you make it fit....


Kinja'd!!! CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:07

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Actually lol’d at work


Kinja'd!!! facw > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:09

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That’s inconvenient . I laughed at the X-Wing though.


Kinja'd!!! vondon302 > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:15

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Lol stay on target red leader!


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:19

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YIPES!

Honestly, I’d just run a good set of all seasons in your case then.


Kinja'd!!! vicali > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:23

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I wouldn’t screw with it. Go to GoWesty and get the right wheels/tires;

https://www.gowesty.com/tech-article-details.php?id=89

https://www.gowesty.com/shop/vehicle-parts/vanagon/accessories/wheels-tires-hardware/wheel-tire-packages/127?v=

I had 14" steelies with Grabbers on our 86 Westy. They weren’t ‘technically’ rated for it - LT tires and all. But they were one of the only ones that fit at that time.

I always wanted to upgrade but never got around to it.


Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:23

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I mean you are still alive so that’s a plus, a blow out on the van would be scary at best and a totaled van at the worst.


Kinja'd!!! McMike > vicali
03/22/2019 at 11:25

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Not sure I have the energy or desire to spend that kind of money for that - with as little snow as we actually get.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:37

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I think we all know what happened here really #Slamagon

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Kinja'd!!! vicali > McMike
03/22/2019 at 11:45

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RA18 then?

http://www.busdepot.com/RA18/

or Vredestines

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=681150


Kinja'd!!! McMike > vicali
03/22/2019 at 11:59

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I already have those - they are actually the tires laying in the grass in the first photo.

This post was about ruining my snow tires, and I’m not sure I want to replace those.


Kinja'd!!! vicali > McMike
03/22/2019 at 12:22

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Or BFG it?

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Kinja'd!!! Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > McMike
03/22/2019 at 12:25

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I might know a guy who could machine you some .125" or .250" spacers.

Then you’d just need tires.


Kinja'd!!! McMike > vicali
03/22/2019 at 12:39

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Nah, I want snows.

Which means I would need a) spacers and new set of 225s, or b) 15-16" wheels and a new set of something else.

Shame that they only make one 14" 99 load snow tire. :(


Kinja'd!!! Grindintosecond > McMike
03/22/2019 at 14:00

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I’m too lazy to look things up for this, but theres two options here:

1.) getting a steel wheel in a size up, 15", so you can get an offset/narrow enough size that works better....or down, but i’m less confident in finding 13" snows.

2.) getting basic $30 steel wheels in a different offset so you don’t have to eff with spacers? You can paint thems in any color you wants.

Just ideas. I have lots of them. I’m not rich off of them so that should be a clue to their worth.


Kinja'd!!! McMike > Grindintosecond
03/22/2019 at 14:43

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Been there, done that. Completed all this homework years ago.

And they’re 14".    I have standards. 


Kinja'd!!! Ratm > McMike
03/22/2019 at 15:43

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They're or they are. 


Kinja'd!!! Skirra > McMike
03/22/2019 at 17:42

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You forgot step 11 were you thank God that it got warm enough that you didn’t die in a fiery car crash.


Kinja'd!!! MM54 > McMike
03/22/2019 at 19:49

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Oh.

Wow.


Kinja'd!!! McMike > Ratm
03/22/2019 at 22:24

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I’m partial to t’r e


Kinja'd!!! McMike > Skirra
03/22/2019 at 22:27

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To be honest, a fiery car crash would be warm all on it’s own.